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The SEEK Podcast
Leading with Conviction: The Crunch x SEEK
In this episode we dive into the remarkable story of Joan of Arc, the patron saint of SEEK this year. We'll explore her legacy of courage and conviction, and discuss how Joan’s life and leadership, rooted deeply in her faith, continue to inspire and challenge us.
Whether you’re attending SEEK or tuning in from afar, this episode offers enriching insights into spirituality, community, and the pursuit of holiness in today’s world.
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Welcome to the Seek Podcast, where we explore faith, inspire hope and build community. My name is John Michael Lucido and I'm excited to invite you to join us this season as we dive into topics about the faith with people from all over the Catholic world. Thank you for listening to today's episode. Know that we are praying for you.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Crunch Catholic Podcast, the first podcast that was live at Seek in 2017.
Speaker 3:The first one. My name is Ethan and I'm Patrick. I don't think that's true we were one of the first ones. Oh, yes, we were there yeah.
Speaker 2:And I wanted to do like a hook at the beginning. Pull people in and say who are these mysterious?
Speaker 3:mr beast, whoosh, boom, noise. We've podcasted at every sneak one dollar catholic conference versus one million dollar catholic conference I consecrated 20,000 hosts.
Speaker 2:This is a little Mr Beast humor for you guys Out there.
Speaker 3:I multiplied five loaves and two fishes and had 12 baskets Left over.
Speaker 2:That's funny. I have this tweet in my mind that I'm refusing to post because I can't figure out a way to do it right. But it's basically the thrust of the post is that the Sermon on the Mount is the greatest sales letter of all time, and so I go in and I'm like here's what the? Sermon on the Mount taught me about B2B SaaS sales.
Speaker 3:That's good. I think it would be funny, but I can't figure out how to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sass, sales, that's good, I think it would be funny, but I can't figure out how to do it. Yeah anyway, welcome to the official seek podcast. Uh, we are the crunch. We're a comedy podcast. I used to be a focus missionary. Patrick used to be a youth minister. We've been to probably eight, seven a ton, a bunch of them many, many, many focus conferences even to the point of recording live at uh 2017, 2018, 2019.
Speaker 3:No 2018, 2019, 2020 yeah, and then and then.
Speaker 2:We were not invited before 2020 happened and then we were not invited and then we did it on a trash can in 2022.
Speaker 3:No, right no, we, we well, we, we were invited, we were in, we we did record at that seek as well. We had, we when we did. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were invited. Yes, we did record, we just did for fun, I guess. We just we were invited, we still did the trash can. We just still did a trash can thing, we just did for fun.
Speaker 2:I guess we were invited. We still did the trash can thing, we just still did a trash can podcast.
Speaker 3:Our semi-illegal mobile podcast our simp, the simp aka Patrick.
Speaker 2:why do you think SEEK is important in 2025? Why are we still doing it? Everyone's been doing the big conference thing. We just had the Eucharistic revival.
Speaker 3:Yeah, why do we got to do another one?
Speaker 2:We just had the Eucharistic revival. Yeah, why don't we do another one? I mean, we're doing all these big conferences. What is the value for something like this? Especially and I want you to keep in- mind a few different things this year. The patron, joan of Arc. Okay, the theme follow me. Why are these things important?
Speaker 3:in 2025? I think I don't know. There's not a lot of stuff. The Eucharistic revival is good, but it was like for everybody. I think it's important.
Speaker 2:When you were in youth group, did you guys have like a special section, like where you would go if you wanted to hold hands with a girl and not be seen by?
Speaker 3:the Eucharist no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean like in mass, like they had a when I, when I was growing up, our youth group had like a had like a section where we'd all sit together. Yes, I think. I think it's important to have that for young people for multiple reasons, not just for the holding hands with a girl thing.
Speaker 2:Although that is definitely one reason we need to have a special thing for for young. We need to have a special thing for young, attractive people ages 18 to 22. There's just not enough for college kids. There's not enough going for college kids. These days.
Speaker 3:I genuinely believe that I don't think there's enough that's good for them. That is genuine.
Speaker 2:The whole thing is the appearance of you got all this great. You're going to the bars, you're going to the football game, you're going to the, but it's empty.
Speaker 3:You play video games, but college kids are also famously lonely.
Speaker 2:Yes. You know, and like, sad and confused about the direction that their life is going in.
Speaker 2:It's like the whole world, that experience of the whole world is catered to you like your hot cool 20-year-old. But you're I mean, mean I was, I don't know you. I was not a hot cool 20, I was a hot cool 20 year old and everyone's like. The whole world is for you. Everything in life is designed around pleasure maximization for you, basically. And yet you still go to bed crying, you're still confused about where you want to be, what you want to do.
Speaker 3:You still have a desire for family and relationship and connection and, uh, no one seems to talk about that you know, and it's tough because, like so, it's so easy to get, I think, sidetracked by the world in this, and I think that's why the joan of arc patron is good, because I, I think joan of arc is a great patron. Oh geez, I just knocked over my everything on my desk. I think the joan, I think joan of arc is a great patron. Oh, jesus, knocked over my everything on my desk. I think the joan, I think joan of arc is an is an interesting patron, because she's, like, the least relatable person on the planet what do you mean by that?
Speaker 3:she like comes out of nowhere, right, she's like from, descends from on high. And she's like I'm going to defeat the britons, I'm gonna defeat the burgundians and the french. The french are like cool, we'll take, we'll take your help. And then they like they, they capture, and they like torture. And they're like explain theology. And she's like yes, I, I know all theology. Like how you're just, you're like a 12 year old girl. How do you know all the like never committed a sin, a paragon of virtue, the opposite of every person that I know in my life, including and especially myself. And so I think it's a fitting, I think I think she's a fitting um patron. But I mean I could see why people would not be, not be, uh, we're not see her as relatable. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I think it's a good move on Focus's part, because I think this is just my personal opinion. I think there's been a little bit too much of the soft small girl saints.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:The Therese of Lisieux. We've done that right. That's been a thing. Those women have everything they need in terms of content, about being like a shy little girl, you know? Yes, that's not a mean thing, it's just. It's a different style.
Speaker 3:That's the vibe, yeah.
Speaker 2:We need a girl who is willing to not only defend Christ to her dying breath, but also to chop off a guy's head with a scimitar.
Speaker 3:Did she do? That I don't know, but it seems like a type yeah, did she, I'm gonna hold on.
Speaker 2:Can you focus? Just pause for a second. Did joan of arc kill? A guy I think there is no evidence that joan of arc ever killed anyone in combat by her proper hand, but she did order her men into battle, causing the loss of thousands of enemy soldiers. So basically, yes.
Speaker 3:Objectively crazy that a 14-year-old girl commanded armies. That is crazy. But I always told you it's crazy that she fought in the Hundred Years' War at only the age of 14.
Speaker 2:Like you'd think you'd have to be. At least 100.
Speaker 3:Older, there's like an age limit. You know it's like sorry, sorry, ma'am, you can only fight in the 14 years war ma'am, you must be this old to fight in the war I have this, I have this matrix that I told you about it.
Speaker 3:The four the four saints that a that a catholic girl gets confirmed and she chooses one of four saints. It's like the big soul, little soul, has a past, doesn't have a past, and Joan of Arc and Therese are both on the doesn't have a past side and, like, joan is the big one and Therese is the little one, which is cool because we have a picture of St Therese dressed like Joan of Arc. I think it's fun.
Speaker 2:It's interesting yeah.
Speaker 3:But I think that Joan is a great choice because it's there, are. It is good to have saints that are relatable, you know, for the fellas out there that, like the ladies too much, it's like oh, augustine, lord, make me chaste, but not yet, you know, you have that like that like hashtag relatable saint um, or I like mountain climbing, like pierre giorgio frassati. But I think it's also good to have these idealistic saints that are just so impossibly beyond right what we could be. That it shows us what the holy spirit could do in us if we just let him you know. Yes, I.
Speaker 2:I also think jonah bark is interesting because she she kind of speaks against the modern understanding of a strong woman and he's important for both men and women, because she's not.
Speaker 2:She led armies of men, but it wasn't because she was like a girl boss slay Queen mmm feminists, it was because she was a literal prophetess and yeah like she spoke with the wisdom of the holy spirit with every and acted with complete virtue in all situations, and so people like listened to her and followed her, regardless of how old she was, regardless of the fact that she was a woman in the 1400s.
Speaker 1:They were like yeah, what?
Speaker 2:what do you want us to do? You know like we're on, we're on your team, all right, yeah which I think is really important, because there's girls being lied to about what it means to be a leader, what it means to be successful.
Speaker 2:It's not about denying masculinity, which is kind of what it is now. I also think this is important for men, because if a woman, in the name of being a girl boss, tries to tell you that your masculinity is inappropriate or that you can't lead, I think you should also push back against that. And you should say well I think leadership at the end of the day is rooted in virtue, conforming yourself to Christ, and if you can do that, then it cuts through all this gendered stuff that's going on in the culture at the.
Speaker 3:moment gendered stuff that's going on in the culture at the moment. She also it's. She also leads. She's a woman who leads men and, because she's so young, she's a woman who leads men divorced from any like sexual desire. I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of, there's a lot of in like in women's stocks you hear this like or in men's stocks sometimes you'll hear it where like, oh, women call men on, like they set the moral standard because guys want to get with them, so they yeah you know they're gonna.
Speaker 3:It's just like a hound dog, yeah, to be released, yes, and and so to the ground he's going, yeah, looking for, and so like if the, if the girl reality yeah, if the if so, if the girl says you know, no, you gotta be, you gotta be a virtuous man to have sex with me, then the man's gonna become virtuous. It's like, I don't think I, I think we've had enough of that. Like I, I heard. I heard that when I was in high school at least implied yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:it was like it was like oh, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't explicit, but it was like guys want to date girls and so they'll become better people in order to date them, and it's like that's fine and probably it is definitely true. I mean, guys definitely like shower so they can date girls, so why wouldn't they?
Speaker 3:you know, shape up a little bit, but it's like I think. I think the Joan of Arc story is interesting because she, she, leads men to virtue, divorced from that side of of the human experience. She, she's side of the human experience, she's able to lead them by femininity in its totality, not purely in its sexual aspect or in its romantic aspect.
Speaker 2:I don't know, what that means.
Speaker 3:I mean there's multiple facets. I feel like I just hit the pin. I'm confused. She's able to lead these men, not because they want to be her boyfriend, but because they just respect her as a woman, right, you know?
Speaker 2:it. That is a false. I don't know what the right word to use there is, but there's dichotomy, false dichotomy.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's a dichotomy, but it's because it's not a dichotomy. It's this false belief that it's okay to just kind of prop women up, put them on a podium and say, well, these are the great and beautiful ones and you guys need to be better for the sake of the great and beautiful ones. It's like this kind of half truth where it's like, yes, men should be good to honor women, but that's not. The goodness goes beyond. Yes, femininity, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's, which is another thing. Right, this is, uh, in the culture, the ultimate is like a woman, you know, never mind the fact they can't define it, never mind the fact that they, that anyone, can be a woman. But to be a man and to be a thing that it truly embodies what a man is, is bad. It's bad to have strong opinions. It's bad to show strength. It's bad to take on responsibility. People don't like it when someone makes it so that their wife doesn't have to work because you're depriving her of the ability to have a job or something you know. Sure. Yeah, it's like, and it's wrong of the man to to imprison her in in her home, as if she's not imprisoned in the cubicle under the fluorescent lights for 40 hours a week I was.
Speaker 3:I was leaving, I there's a park across the street from my office and, uh, my wife texted me. She's like hey, we all, like the, the moms group, got together at the park across the street, come say hi, and I walked over and all the ladies go. Is that a husband? Is that a wild husband? I see this is a rare sighting, this is kind of a joke. And then, um, I like said hi, and I said hi to leo and I hugged my wife. I was like all right, but I said hi to all the ladies. All right, bye everybody, I gotta have a meeting. And they're like ah, a meeting, and one of them goes just think of us having fun at the park. And I was like that's why I do the meetings, that's why I do the meetings, so that you guys can go to the park, the whole point.
Speaker 2:I sit and I stare at the spreadsheets and at the Zoom calls so that my wife can and meet other women with kids of similar ages and get coffee with them. That's my whole point she's like I met a new friend at the park. I'm like wonderful, tell me all about it. I drove. Shareholder value.
Speaker 3:I will not tell you about the spreadsheets. I will not tell you about the spreadsheets.
Speaker 2:I'll not tell you about the spreadsheets. If you promise, please don't ask me about the spreadsheets.
Speaker 3:If you promise, please don't ask me about the spreadsheets. I know I think that's interesting. It's like Joan of Arc breaks gender stereotypes but in doing so she does not break gender or sex or sexuality, she affirms it by breaking what our conception of it. It's like we replace what it means to be a man, what it means to be a woman, in these little boxes and the like, the accidental aspects of what it means to be a man being really good at war. So that's an accident of something that's true deep down about what a man is. And so, like Joan of Arc, what is true about being a woman would, in that in that time period, would exclude being a good commander of armies. Right, but at the end of the day, like it in the bible, we have judith and deborah, we have people, we have women who commanded armies.
Speaker 3:It's like not, it's not, it's not alien to woman to do this thing. But it's like she breaks the stereotypes in order to find true femininity. But I think, I think our culture wants to break the stereotype, to eliminate femininity as a whole. It's spent particularly femininity. Our culture wants to eliminate femininity and make it some kind of like androgynous thing. I know you mentioned the culture wanting to eliminate masculinity.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, yeah there's all, it's both, it's any. Any distinction that implies that something is better than something else is is is not allowed. Yeah, in the culture, right? So to say that women are different than men and they have this thing that men can't do and it's really amazing, it's called childbirth. That's like you can. To say that women are different than men and they have this thing that men can't do, and it's really amazing, it's called childbirth. That's like you can't say that, right.
Speaker 2:Or men are different from women. Men have this really great ability to have really robust shoulder and chest muscles that allow them to lift God willing, god willing, I did one day, one day, one day, one day maybe I have big shoulders one day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like there's physical differences in how we're built and how we're structured and do Cigar Burger and all the women are like. All I did was listen to Sister Bethany Madonna and read the little office of the Blessed virgin mary and and and veil, and now I'm like out in the real world and I'm like I have male co-workers and it's just like a weird experience how do I talk to them? How do I what?
Speaker 3:how do I do this? I went on the capture. My heart retreat very niche franciscan reference like think about to lead soldiers in war.
Speaker 2:Jonah vark had to like, go out on campaign with the men, right? Yeah, she had. She had bodyguards, she had protectors, right. So there was no like she's not just out in a field on her own with a bunch of dudes capture my heart more like capture the english territories, that's uh-huh yeah, you're gonna try another one.
Speaker 3:Um, catch my heart while I capture the flag. That's. That's the men's retreat. You want to try one?
Speaker 2:capture my heart more like capture my fart there you go, there it is.
Speaker 3:That's the men's, that's the men's retreat. We had beans for dinner at the military camp hey, any, any, any current frannies, you're welcome to take that. I will be the. I will be the mc of the capture, my fart retreat frannies aren't going to Seek Patrick. Dude, yes, they are. What are you talking about? Franciscan students go to Seek.
Speaker 2:Do they? Benedictine is the big thing, the big school.
Speaker 3:Well, Benedictine has a big connection to Seek, but Franciscan always brings a bunch of people. Franciscan is a sponsor of Seek every year.
Speaker 2:That's true. I forget about that. Franciscan University of Steubenville.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we send Frannies, we have focused missionaries, or at least we did. I think we did Go.
Speaker 2:Barons Anyway what I was saying is that she was out in the camps, she was out on the campaign with the men. And I would presume because of her virtue, because of the way that the men trusted her. It was not like she's off on her own on the woman's side of the camp and then the men are over here and the men's side like if you're on a, if you're in the military, you're all kind of together, you know. But she was obviously treated in a way that was appropriate for her station yes and she treated the men in a way that was appropriate for their station.
Speaker 2:And I just wonder if that's like possible to achieve in the college context today where, like, women and men can coexist without it devolving into either degeneracy and like weird dating relationships and arguments and fighting, or devolving into the thing I was describing before, which is like two completely separate groups, like can we just have like a normal reg, like the thing that you get when there's married couples that all hang out and like the guys and the girls will have normal pleasant dinner conversation and it's all united and connected you're talking about kids, whatever but then after dinner the men are having the, the drink and the women are are eating a cookie I think, uh, so you have all these contrived situations.
Speaker 3:You have to, uh, you have to be on the lookout for serendipity. I think this ties into the theme of Seek, which is follow me.
Speaker 3:In the midst of all these contrived circumstances. The men's groups, the women's groups, all good things, all good things. These are not the only times when you can meet a spouse. I remember when I was in a youth group I would get really excited to go to school or wherever my crush was Like I would go to. Where I was crushed on a girl at youth groups, I'd be like, oh, I'm so excited to go to youth group. I might see this girl. You know, not, considering I live in the same town as her, I could just ask her to hang out with me.
Speaker 3:You know, these contrived circumstances are not the place it's. You have to be on the lookout for the serendipitous the, the place where you don't have control, the follow me thing right, like the, the apostles leaving and being like um, I have it, hold on, I'll tie it in. It makes sense in my head, but I'll make it make sense in the real world, please. Um, there's, there's safety in seek and there's safety in. It wouldn't be a crunch seek podcast if we weren't at least a little bit like, honest and critical about the conferences in general. But it's like there's safety in seek, there's safety in your, your men's group and there's safety in your college. It's that's. That's the boat right, that's the tax collector's office. That's the place where you're comfortable.
Speaker 3:But, like, jesus is always going to call you to where you're not comfortable. He's always going to call you to follow and he calls. When he calls someone to follow him, he's calling them into something unknown. That's all he says. That's all he says. He calls us into a place where we are not in control anymore.
Speaker 3:And so I think being docile to the Holy Spirit, being on the lookout for those circumstances, are ultimately going to be the things that fulfill the desires of your heart. Maybe you're not resonating with dating because you're in a super happy relationship and you're like we're going to get married two weeks out here. It's something else. There's a deep desire in your heart and you're like I'm get married two weeks out here. Um, it's something else. You know, there's a deep, there's a deep desire in your heart and you're like I'm gonna come up with this contrived circumstance to to fix it. I'm gonna start a men's group and we're you know. But like, god is calling you to listen to his voice and follow him to a place where you didn't expect and like that's where you're gonna find what your heart desires.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like when, uh, god says to abraham go, leave the land of your fathers and go to the land that I have I've picked out for you and for your children's children and your children's children, and don't take anybody with you, and abraham's like sounds good, I'm on my way. Lot do you want to come with me? And lots like yes. And then god punishes him and that seems like unfair. But it's because he contrived this situation right. He didn't feel completely safe following what god asked him to do and so he took along this, this extra thing.
Speaker 2:This happens over and over again in the bible, right, I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about jonah, like go to nineveh. It's like ah, I'm not going to nineveh, I'm going the other way. I'm gonna meet this, this, this little creature in a boat, and there's gonna be cheese puffs for some reason.
Speaker 3:And you've seen jonah the veggie sales movie yeah, yeah, the movie that bankrupted big idea, the movie that bankrupted veggie tales, and why it's not this, why they look weird.
Speaker 2:Now it's the whole now, yeah, I could probably come up with a thousand more examples.
Speaker 2:The cock crowing you know, and Peter running away when he could have stayed by the side of our Lord. Lots of situations where people don't feel comfortable and they refuse the invitation of the Lord to follow them. I think the young people now I'm talking, I'm 28. So I'm not I probably include myself in this, I guess, but if you're 18 or 10 years younger than me, so you're, if you're going through life, there's a really heavy pressure on you to it's not have it figured out. But there's a reason that a lot of young people are depressed or anxious or have a lot of things that stress them out every single day, because there, there, there's no clear um expectation and there's no clear model for them of how to live the in the way in which you describe. Like there is no room anymore in american life for serendipity because everything is planned out. You know the?
Speaker 2:The new season of great british baking show comes out in september. You got to watch it. You know the? The football starts on time. The basketball starts on time. The the the seasons change, everything just kind of moves on. It's at its regular pace.
Speaker 2:You get shipped off to soccer practice, you get shipped off to school, you're off to college. You know, everything just kind of happens as an unfolding. There's no agency and there's also no spontaneity. There's no randomness to life. It can feel like when you're young, especially in college, and I think that's why a lot of people are going back to what we started with. They're confused, they're depressed, they don't know where they're going because they've been on this conveyor belt, they've been on this treadmill for 12 years and now it's like you're living on your own and you feel like serendipity should be happening. But it's like, hey, why don't you let go of trying to facilitate a happy life for yourself and just surrender those things? And then let me give you the happy life that I, that you. It's not gonna be easy, but it'll certainly be way more filled with joy and peace than the alternative.
Speaker 3:Clearly, yeah, and it's tough to hear because it's like you just want I mean, you just want control. It's like, oh yeah, my and it any any now that, now that I have a young son a little, a little guy it's. So I see I see myself like five years ago in this little kid where it's like he just wants, he wants control of things. It's so funny. He'll um, I'm like I want, you're gonna, we're gonna put your shoes on. He's like no or no, this is a better example like give me that toy.
Speaker 3:Give me that toy, and he would like, rather he doesn't want to give me the toy, he would rather throw it away from me than hand it over to me. And it's such, it's like I. I'm like, yeah, man, me too. I would rather that, rather, I would rather, I would rather lose everything by choice than hand everything over, all control over to god, like that's. Just. How often do I make that call um, and so, yeah, it's a hard thing, it's a hard thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this ties in with just the idea of agency, the idea that you have more control over your life than you feel like you do.
Speaker 2:It might feel as if you're going through college and for us to say to you abandon these things you're holding on to give your life over to Jesus, that might be really scary because that might mean a lot of things would change, that you don't have a framework to understand what that means, right? So, for example, extreme I need to drop out of school, I need to break up with my girlfriend, I need to go no contact with my family, any number of things. Because you're young, this, I'm not saying this because you're like oh, cause you're young and you're stupid. Because you're young, you haven't had enough experiences in your life to know how to handle those types of situations, so they feel really frightening and impossible to deal with and so people will not give them over to Christ because it's like I don't know anybody that's done that. Nobody says that this is a good idea. I can't do that thing. This was my experience when I joined Focus.
Speaker 2:I didn't know anybody that had successfully gone to become a Focus missionary. I didn't know anybody that fundraised their salary. I didn't know anybody that would have rather done that instead of being an electrical engineer making $70,000 a year out of school. I didn't know anybody that would have made that decision. I made that decision and it was really hard because my family didn't have a model for it. I didn't have a model for it. I knew it was what Jesus wanted me to do. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done, because it was really scary, know, yeah, and I, but I feel like that's. But that led to so many other amazing and incredible things in my life, like my marriage and my children now exist because of that decision and like I couldn't have, you know, predicted that I could not have contrived that if I had wanted to yeah, um so.
Speaker 2:So I think it's like the invitation here going back to St John of Arc is this courage. It's this courage to give your life over to the Lord and not allow yourself to be trapped in the prison of modern society, as Fight Club would say.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, yeah, fight Club. Would say yeah, yeah, fight Club, the movie that everyone who's listening to the Seek podcast has seen.
Speaker 2:I was just thinking of. It's just so cringe to be like modern life is a prison Because our furniture is from Ikea. It's like a Fight Club. It's a whole plot of Fight Club. It's like a guy who bombs a building because he doesn't like Ikea furniture. I don't know if that's actually what the movie's about.
Speaker 2:It's been a long time since I've seen it, but that's my recollection that's what I remember I'm gonna become brad pitt and I'm gonna kill a guy because I'm depressed, not the move yeah, I haven't seen it either, but I'm pretty sure that's what it's about yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3:What's the part where they reinvent baseball?
Speaker 2:You're thinking of Pulp Fiction. What did I say? I don't know. Do they reinvent baseball in Fight Club?
Speaker 3:No, in Moneyball, Moneyball, another Brad Pitt movie. I thought you would get that immediately.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to say Moneyball was like that. Should the baseball already exists in money ball?
Speaker 3:that doesn't make any sense they reinvented baseball in money, oh big with the new strategy billy.
Speaker 2:This is jonah bark. It's like jonah hill is pitching. Her only defect she's 17 years old does she kill burgundians?
Speaker 3:no, but she gets on base, she gets on base that's funny.
Speaker 2:That's funny, maybe to like four people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's hilarious and we're two of those four, yeah, so if you're out there and you like the money ball.
Speaker 2:Jonah vark crossover meme. Thank you, I think that's it for our seek podcasts, yeah I think I think we've covered.
Speaker 3:We covered the three major things about seek this year. I'm really excited for the conference. Um, if you're there, say hi to us, say what's up, we will be podcasting. Whether they like it or not, we'll bring. Do you still have the banner? We're gonna bring the banner back.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's up. It's up on my shelf up there, so I'll have to get it down.
Speaker 3:Ooh, semi-illegal mobile podcast. Let's hope the QR code still works.
Speaker 2:We're coming back, baby. Thank you guys for listening to the Crunch. You can find us if you want to. I just wanted to be here for you guys, thecrunchcastcom.
Speaker 3:We're just happy to be here for you, the crunchcastcom.
Speaker 2:We're just happy to be here. Crunchcastcom. Follow us on X, the everything app. Patrick, do you have anything else for the people? Follow us on Instagram.
Speaker 3:That's where you're going to have more fun. Follow us on Instagram. The somethings app.
Speaker 2:Thank you all for listening. Please pray for us. We'll be praying for you. We'll see you all next time.
Speaker 1:Bye, bye, bye. Thank you for joining us for this episode. We hope you learned something and encountered Christ in some way. If you enjoy what we do, please subscribe and share this podcast with a friend. This helps us reach more people with and for Christ. Until next time, this is John Michael Peace.
